Can anyone tell me is this a Tasmanian or a Brown Thornbill? Photographed in the car park at Port Arthur, Tasmania in January.
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After poking my nose in my field guide I'd say that's a Tasmanian Thornbill, shore.rob. Tasmanian posters with more expertise than I may have other thoughts.
Woko is spot on! Assuming #4 is the same bird, I'm certain these are Tas Thornbill. Besides their call, the two visual clinchers for me are the rufous edge on the wings, completely absent on Brown Thornbill, and the cleaner/whiter underpants
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West Coast Tasmania
Thanks ever so much......I looked in the books and looked at internet photos and read web sites about how to determine...but at times even became more confused
Shore.rob, in the front of most, if not all, field guides is information on what to look for when identifying a bird species.
Oh definitely it can become so confusing with the LBB's! The June issue last year of Australian Birdlife (Vol 3 No 2) (for Birdlife Australia members) had the best article on Thornbill ID that I have seen. Up 'til then, there were still more times than I care to admit I just wasn't sure if it was a Brown or Tas Thornbill unless I heard its call. That one article opened my eyes to a few very small but distinct differences between those two in particular, ones I'd noticed, but I just hadn't clicked it all in my head
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West Coast Tasmania
Thanks to all who replied. Anne J I had briefly seen that article but when it came out I was not a member. I would love to get a copy. The more Tasmanian Thornbills I see the more I am starting to recognise them......now Dusky Robuns...well thats another story.
I'm hearing you
. It's the female Scarlets & Flames I find tricky, I haven't seen many female Flames, and photographed even less, so I guess that might come easier for me in time once I see more, I hope 
The Dusky I'm sure you'll find easy once you look at a few of your shots - they are the only Tas Robin with a distinct dark horizontal line running through their lores (beak to front of eye), then continuing out the back of their eye - kind of like they have their Goth makeup on, Juvi and adult both have this, Adults can range from brown to grey (regardless of what guides say, unless my eyes are worse than I think, I have seen grey), juvis more brown and mottled on their chest and crown (in particular), very pretty.
West Coast Tasmania