Which Robins are these?

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Which Robins are these?

Taken in Narooma, NSW August this year.  Can anyone enlighten me please?

teganb02
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#1: female or young male? Flame Robin (Petroica phoenicea) 

#2: possibly female Hooded Robin (Melanodryas cucullata) 

Tegan - Melbourne Vic.

HelloBirdy
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Assuming they are the same robin, female Scarlet Robin. Large forehead spot, light orange front part way down etc. 

Tegan, Flames are slimmer and taller in appearence, and have a much smaller forehead spot. I don't have much experience with hooded robins, but they don't have any orange

Ryu
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teganb02
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It also depends on location too

Tegan - Melbourne Vic.

teganb02
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Oh yes Ryu, looking now pic 1 looks more like a Female Scarlet, so that's one identified. But I don't think that they are the same bird, pic 2 has a smaller eye and is darker, the White is pure and isn't smudgy grey like pic 1, pic 2 also has a slimmer bill and lacks the forehead spot, I still think pic 2 is a female Hooded

Tegan - Melbourne Vic.

Bridges
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They are two different Robins, but taken in the same area.

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Another photo of the second Robin.

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HelloBirdy
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So first is Scarlet Robin

I am in favour of Jacky Winter for the second. Hooded Robin lacks the pale brow line and the white edging to feathers.

Ryu
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Thank you all.  Female Scarlet Robin and Jacky Winter seems right.

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