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What do you mean by only 7 species!? I'd think it is a pretty good effort. What is your record for # of species of raptors in a day then?
Ryu
Canberra
Aiming for DSLR-quality shots with a bridge camera
My computer or this website must be playing up. I just read, "Went looking for Raptors today. Only found 7 species and only got decent pics of 3". And then photographs of raptors started to appear.
Photographing 7 species of Raptor in one day would have to be some kind of world record?
Samford Valley Qld.
Thanks guys,
I went to areas where i should have got B Falcon, P Falcon, S Harrier and Sparrow/Goshawk. I was hoping on 10 but the potential in Canberra can be 12 or more.
Shorty......Canon gear
Canberra
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Some guys have it rough. Only seven species. I would be weeing like a puppy if I got seven Raptors. Oh and great photos by the way.
I like the two that are perched, but is there a reason that they are so close to the edge of the frame?
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Thanks Devster,
If you ever come to Canberra you better wear a nappy :)
Thanks Ray,
With the Hobby i wanted room for it to look into, as for the BSK there were a lot of ugly branches to the left, but i do not stick to the norm in photos though.
Shorty......Canon gear
Canberra
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I agree with your approach. What they call 'white space' in photography is important. But with nature photography you can't always control it to your satisfaction.
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Great photos ... the white grey goshawk is a stunning bird!
Awesome shots, I would love to see 7 BOP species in a day!
Lovely work Rawshorty. 7 in a day is excellent. I might start targetting a few more raptors and owls soon now that i have suitable lens reach and id'e be stoked to see 7 species in an outing. Nice work.
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Only seven? Slacker :-)
Nice work.
Thanks Guys,
The next day a got 3 Brown Goshawks, shame they were not around on Sunday.
Shorty......Canon gear
Canberra
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Another stunning shot!
Totally green with envy ;)
Ryu
Canberra
Aiming for DSLR-quality shots with a bridge camera
Have to join the others in their outrage at 7 raptors being an "only"! Sounds like a good day even if it was just the three which turned out for the photos. That second BG pic must make up for some of your disappointment. Looks very good!
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Thanks guys,
I will give it another go this weekend, really want to get 10+
Shorty......Canon gear
Canberra
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rawshorty/
Shorty , you've done it again. Great photos. I always look forward to seeing your posts.
Thank you for sharing with us.
Barney.
not so sure i'd count owls as raptors
then again falcons aren't real of birds of prey either; they are much more closely related to parrots than to hawks/eagles.
Thats interesting Zosterops. Why is that? I just though the fact that thier beaks have a sharp hook designed for ripping meat and sharp talons for catching and gripping their prey they would be closer to Raptors than Parrots. Like to hear why they are not.
it's due to advances in molecular genetics, genomic analysis of dna
in the past taxonomic evolutionary relations where inferred solely via similarities in morphological characteristics
falcons and parrots have also been found to be related to sparrows
falcons only look like hawks due to convergent evolution and filling a similar niche
plenty of parrots eat meat and insects.
grebes are closely related to flamingos
owls are completely unrrelated to raptors (meaning hawks and eagles) this has been long known, i believe they were found to be closely related to kingfishers
Thats very interesting. Doesn't Raptor mean "Bird of Prey" so wouldn't anything that preys on other animals be referred to as a "bird of prey" I guess then you have to work out the meaning of Prey which is "an animal that is eaten by another animal". Do insects fall into this catorgory?
meaning is subjective
you can call a bird whatever you want
just don't expect the scientific establishment to necessarily go along with you.
i consider birds of prey and raptors to be hawks and eagles (accipitridae),
some would consider a tawny frogmouth a bird of prey, and it would be by some definitions (a honeyeater catching an insect could equally be considered a bird of prey).
i wouldn't (frogmouths are related to nightjars, though they are sometimes associated with owls by the general public).
I have changed the Thread title :))
Shorty......Canon gear
Canberra
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Thanks Barney, glad you enjoyed them.
Shorty......Canon gear
Canberra
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as i said you can consider a bird whatever you want.
though of course birdlife australia including owls under birds of prey will be aimed at a general public audience to assist with id, it doesn't mean birdlife considers them related to kites or eagles (which birdlife would never claim)
"Raptors ( as Birdlife Australia claim them to be ) "
And just about every other bird watcher , twitcher , and ornithologist on this planet.
Irrespective of the hypothetical/actual evolutionary lineage.
I consider raptors to exclude owls, and BoP to include. No scientific basis to this though :)
Ryu
Canberra
Aiming for DSLR-quality shots with a bridge camera
true i've met many birders who don't consider owls raptors.
very elastic arbitrary largely meaningless categorisations though
not sure why an ornithologist would use the term raptor or bird of prey??
is a kea a bird of prey?
Edited again for the scientific minded folk :))
Shorty......Canon gear
Canberra
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