hi Everybody,
i recently had a great desire to start bringing birds to the backyard after noticing a few lorikeets hang out in my parents fruit tree. as there are no more fruits there, they don't come back anymore. but i'd really like to have lorikeets visit, just like on youtube. there are many of them that fly around in the neighborhood, but they just don't seem to take notice of the dry powder stuff i've been putting out for them (HARMONY brand, for wild nectar eaters). i recently made a decision to put it on top of the car port, but they still don't notice it. i also put out some seed mix and the doves and sparrows love it. the doves await each day and it's nice, but i really want lorikeets. even other nectar eating birds aren't eating the powder I put out. there are some trees nearby with small nectar eating birds, but they don't seem to care either.
any ideas of how i can lure lorikeets? planting isn't a good idea because it will take to long to grow (or maybe not?). if i can somehow get there attention...??
in the past when they visited the fruit tree, i did put up some powder (in the tree). they didn't seem to care though. however, i'm not totally sure. They may have not liked the unstable setup. Still though, I think I did see one lorikeet sort of smell it , but not think much of it. Currently, there's not any fruit in that tree and they don't bother coming there now.
There are so many of them around. There’s gotta be a way to bring them into my yard. In the same way that the doves get excited about the seeds, I’m thinking the same should occur with the lorikeets. I’m thinking of trying a different type of food for them.
Thank you all for any help,
Joe
Hi Joe......try a mixture of honey and water. Dissolve the honey in some warm water first then add fresh clean cold water, make sure that it's not too sweet. The lorikeets are the only ones who will touch it so you don't have to worry about other birds coming down and 'nicking' it. Shaka
Hi guys
Have to jump in here. Shaka, whilst the lorikeets love honey/water mixes, it is actually terrible for them. They need complex sugars found in nectar rather than the simple sugars found in honey - they can become nutrient deficient quickly. The honey can also ferment quickly and make the birds very sick.
Feeding birds is a really controversial issue Joe so you may get some harsh opinions in here. I understand that you want that connection with your local lorikeets and I believe you can still have it but honestly, providing flowering plants for them is infinitely better for them than feeding them artificially (and they don't seem to be going for the nectar mix anyway). If you attract large numbers of parrots in to feeders you can easily spread beak and feather disease and other illnesses amongst the population. Large numbers of lorikeets together can also behave very aggressively towards other birds and so you can tip the balance of birds in your neighbourhood.
My suggestion would be to get some flowering plants in the ground - yes sure it takes a while to establish them but in the mean time, take a walk around your neighbourhood and appreciate the birds as they fly around - look at your neighbourhood as a lovely extenstion of your backyard. Birds come and go throughout the year depending on what natural food is available, by planting bird-friendly plants you can encourage a range of birds to visit you at different times, not just your lorikeets.
Please feel free to ask me any questions you may have and I hope I haven't upset you by not giving you the answer you were really looking for.
Holly
raven12, you have observed exactly what I have, birds turn up for a feed if it's available, they only turn to artificial feeding if they are desperate. A quick growing plant they enjoy is a bottlebrush (callistemon), it also brings honeyeaters, silvereyes and insect eaters, if you are short on growing room it will grow in a very large pot quite happily. To encourage a wide range of garden visitors, you need to have three levels of cover, ground plants, bushes and trees. Look at what your neighbour has and supplement what is missing. A good layer of mulch such as lucerne hay encourages all the creepie crawlies which are someone's food. I have young peewits that have been bringing their young offspring to forage for creepie crawlies for a few years now. I do put some see out and as you say, mainly the doves and sparrows eat it, parrots only visit to eat when food is short. I am also mindful that we are squatting in their space and have removed some of their foraging area, with that in view, I am gradually growing plants and even grains they enjoy. The advantage of all this is that I never need to spray for grubs and whatever in the garden. Even the Indian Mynahs do their bit, I haven't had to spray for lawn grubs since they arrived in the area, therefore I don't mind a small group around. By the way, I have noted about forth regular species visit and another about ten very occasionally visit, we seem to be under a bird corridor.
Hi Guys,
thx for the suggestions. I'm really into doing things cleanly and safely. i just wouldn't want to do any harm at all to the birds. Also, i don't mind helping out the lorikeets a little. there are zillions of them around, and i'm sure they'll be eating other food throughout the day, which isn't from me (assuming i succeed in bringing them in). so they wont depend on me totally. i ordered a water bath and i'm really excited about that. i'm going to keep it clean too (from diseases).
shak:
i might try that honey mix, to just see if i can get their attention, and then move on to other mixes. how much water in ml? and how much honey in ml? any suggestions i'm grateful for.
for me, i like watching birds too, but i also need to get to know them. the doves already know me, even if they are so fearful in nature. still, it brings me great joy when they start looking at me and even coming up to my window up stairs (you know, they see me spying , and start coming up to the window. so long as they don't see my whole body, they seem to not be as afraid.). so cute. although they are extremely nervous. probably much more than lorikeets would be.
thank you all. if you have any more suggestions let me know. i'm also thinking of making a breeders recipe, and trying that. i was thinking of getting a stuffed lorikeet dole too, and putting it next to the feeder, and also getting a mirror and trying that. my family thinks i'm somewhat insane. haha.
Joe
birdsong:
you mentioned bottlebrush (callistemon). how long will this take to grow and how big (years or months or what)? is this a massive tree, or a scrub? do you think i can get one that's already say a meter big, plant it , and have it bigger quite soon?
thx
raven12, Callistemons don't take very long to grow, grow to about two to three metres or less, depending on the variety, some are shorter. As for the actual size of the plant you buy, as far as native plants are concerned, it is better to buy a small plant as they grow better and faster. Mature plants often find it hard to establish. Autumn is a good time to establish new shrubs in the garden as they have time to develop a good root system before summer. Grevillia species are another useful nectar plant, cultivars Honey Gem and Coconut Ice have been popular in my garden. Surprisingly, one of them is growing in a medium sized pot quite happily. Tea Tree is also quite popular with smaller birds, mine is the Lemon Scented Tea Tree, one plant in a pot outside the kitchen door and the other in the garden. A good idea is to go along to you local nursery and see what they have in stock. Here is a good website where you are able to match plants to the wildlife you want to attract:
http://www.floraforfauna.com.au/
From experience in my own backyard with them, one thing that lorikeets absolutely love is flowering gums! Unfortunately we had to remove the tree but this was the first time we had them come into our backyard and they would come everyday at least a few times in the morning and late afternoon (time depending on the temperature) until it stopped flowering. Not only that but I'm sure a few different types of honeyeaters wouldn't mind it being there either.
You are absolutely right about the gum tree flowers.
Hi Joe,
A bottle brush seed that I planted six months ago has germinated and grown and is now about a metre tall. A little bit of a fertiliser called 'blood and bone' helped it along nicely. A little of this fertiliser raked into the ground around the tree will make it grow steadily and quickly.
Several other seeds germinated at the same time but planted out weeks later are only half the size.
To collect and germinate your own seeds is easy but bottle brushes are quite cheap to buuy. Get one that is say half a metre tall, dig a hole a little deeper than the depth of the pot it is in and twice as wide. Sprinkle some blood and bone in the hole, cover with a sprinkle of dirt and plant your tree. Water it in well and next spring you may have your first flowers.
You can take just about any callistemon (bottle brush) and prune it regularly to keep it to a managable size we have some in our back yard that are perhaps 20 years old and have never been pruned, they are as tall as our house. We have lots of space so we can let them grow to however tall they want to be, but the same trees would be happy if we pruned them back too.
Kind Regards
Wollemi
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Thanks for the website link Birdsong. I have been looking at cleaning up my backyard and planting some native bird attracting plants. My backyard is small though so I have to try and pick smaller plants.
I have a large bottlebrush next to my tree and it seems to attract the new holland honey eaters and lorikeets but only during a certain time of the year for about 2-3 weeks. Last month actually I think it was.
Unfortunately that web site does not mention when those plants flower as I would like to have a range of plants which flower at different times of the year so I can have the birds coming throught the year. I guess I will just have to google the individal plants and find out more about them.
Thanks again.
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I don't mind helping at all, don't forget to try your local plant nursery, they are only too willing to help. if you are lucky, you may even have a native plant nursery nearby. However, don't get too hett up about having only native plats, the birds are quite happy to have anything to perch on,eat insects off or take cover in. They need cover as well as food. I have gathered a great deal of information over the years which I am looking at putting into a website covering such things as the levels of vegetation, integration of the neighbouring vegetation and how birds use seasonal differences in the garden plants. I also have a collection of flower, bird and insect photos to add to it. Hopefully it would be a useful resource.
I use the same brand of nectar mix (Harmony Wild Nectar Mix) for my pet Lorikeet and really it's only good for pet food. As for wild Lorkeets, they use the gum tree and absolutely love it. There's no use putting a mix that is foreign to them outside where they can clearly see them, they won't even register it as food. Take all the great suggestions above about planting native bottlebrushes.
Lorikeets also flock to my yard because of our pet lorikeet - but only either through curiosity or territorial reasons (I never knew musk lorikeets can be so aggressive). I don't think the doll and mirror would work. Yummy nectar from flowering plants sure will.
Taz
hi All,
thank you for all these suggestions. i would like to plant, but it's gonna be a little hard with my parents controlling the garden.
i guess it's no suprise that they don't care about the harmony wild mix i put out. still, when you watch you_tube, there are lots of lorikeets that are wild and attending to feeding tables. some people use sugar mixes, or complicated recipes with milk-biscuit-flour etc. so, the lorikeets do tend to be drawn to non-natural sources as well. i hope so anyway. you see them on you-tube, wild lorikeets flocking to peoples feeding trays.
one of many examples:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlEnVIbLGig&playnext=1&list=PL52424AC65DEF38D9
the doves are really getting use to me. i'm getting them to come to my upstairs window for a feed. i'm thinking of getting a bird whistle, to train them to come to me when it's feeding time. haha. not easy though, as they are SO fearful.
hoping to bring the lorikeets in with a recipe,
Joe
Hi Joe, I wasn't going to say anything, but.... There were so many fantastic replies, and great suggestions about plants that would bring birds into your garden. I do understand,you would have to convince your parents first. The only remark I want to make, if you read what you have just said, there is one important thing,you said: "non-natural sources". Please reconsider, in my view animals, birds and humans do not need - non-natural food. (I'm expressing my very personal opinion!!)
M-L
They'll eat anything if you encourage it to. They can even eat chicken (I'm serious). Those lorikeets probably learned how good bread tasted before they flocked there.
If you love feeding lorikeets that way and make all sorts of recipes for them, I suggest you get a pet lorikeet to be your food critic. You can feed them whatever you like (preferrably the natural stuff as always) as long as you keep its diet balanced and nutrient-rich. You can teach them to talk, dance, play, all sorts of tricks and they love licking you :p
You really should not be feeding Lorikeets flour and biscuits, it does no better to them as it does to us. They should not be encouraged to be drawn to non-natural sources or they'll become as aggressive as seagulls. It's made clear that a lot of problems arise from feeding them this way and is greatly discouraged. To attract them from the wild, take the very valuable suggestions about gardening a lot of people are giving you here- bring the suggestions to your parents, try to convince them to attract birds too ;)
Taz
hi guys,
just to stress i'm not into feeding them artificial junk . just saying that there probably is nice/healthy recipes out there that would help them out a bit. so dont worry.
how to get their attention is the main challenge of course.
thx for the ideas. i'll definately start considering planting soon. already have one fruit tree they love.
another bird i'd love to get are cockatoos. the seeds should work just as excellent with the doves. but how to get their attention i dont know. they are around, but non in peoples yards, buit nearby. the keets though fly over ur houses all the time
thx everyone. great tips here
joe
(hech out ebay bird whistles guys !)
Have you thought of using some of the birdseed to actually grow it in the garden? Sunflowers are both decorative and bird food, I find the King Parrots enjoy them. Corn from the seed pack is enjoyed by larger parrots, sit the cobs in a hanging container and the white cockatoos and galahs think they are made! Smaller seeds attract the smaller birds. Simply dot the seed around the whole garden. The garden looks a bit wild but the wildlife loves you.
hi
no, i never thought of planting sunflower seeds. didn't know you could do that. hmm, i might try spraying the seeds on the front yard as well as the back yard and see what happens.
i bet some people on this forum have amazing wild life in their backyard
thx everybody for all the tips,
joe
Good luck with it. The bird bath should do a very good job for you in attracting birds. Surround it with some appropriate plants and you'll have flocks of them visiting your place. Not so sure about seeds. When we had poultry seeds were spilt everywhere which got the crested pigeons and turtledoves as well as some... rats. Not sure if the same happens with sunflower seeds.
Taz
wow...this forum is awesome..getting ideas left right and center.
rats....my parents might not like that lol. main thing i guess is that they stay outside where they belong. later, i can use dishes to lure the desired birds rather than seeds on the ground.
i counted 8 turtle doves today..haha..i know, they are not native, but i love the way they've been lazing around my window sill on the 2nd floor (after leaving food for them there a few times). it's nice to know that they fear me less and can snooze outside of my room nearby.
i saw 2 crested pigeons briefly serveral days ago. but they were just going about other business. they parked on the neighbours roof. bomber they didn't realize i was dishing out seed. they are native, and apparently more 'friendly' than turtle doves who are solitary in nature.
got 2 big seed packs which i'm gonna start adding to the front yard as well and see what happens.
QUESTION: just wondering, even though cockatoos scarcely come in the backyard, as well as other non-dove pigeons or lorikeets (though they do fly by, especially lorikeets), how long should i leave stuff out before these birds start to take notice, if i do end up being successful?
i'll be chucking out water/honey/bread mixes and seeds each day.
once again everyone, thank you. hope i don't come across like i'm sculling 2 many answers :)
you know, this thought occurred to me. i noticed there were 8 doves. more than 6 which was the last max number i counted. also, this number might have been higher by now if i didn't vary the locations (from the ground in the backyard, to the carport, to the window sill). i'm thinking, if i just keep the location the same, keep the bird bath full (i'll keep it disease free), chuck lots of seeds out there, even more birds will come, probably other seed eaters will take notice of the existing flock, till eventually cockys drop in. and even lorikeets...
i'm excited.