Scarlet Robins

Some more Scarlet Robins, and they are two male birds now, and the female must have a nest, I saw her disappear into the thick bushes. When I took those photos this morning, they couldn't sit on the fence for long enough to get a good shot, they didn't seem to be liked by the Yellow Robins, nor by the Grey Fantails, they kept chassing them off. So here is the result of me stalking birds in still in my PJs

Both of them look like juveniles changing into their adult plumage, or am I wrong in thinking that?