Swamp Harrier.

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kevinj
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Swamp Harrier.

I think,he was quite a distance from me but this is the best pic I have of him so far.

Rick N
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Great photo. I'm a bit new to this but I would have said Whistling Kite?

Asumming it's SH how would I tell the difference?

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WhistlingDuck

Great shot kevin. 

kevinj
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I was told by a birdwatcher out at the same time that it was a Swamp Harrier,if anyone can give an ID it would be appreciated.

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zosterops
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I'm going Whistling Kite, you can see the long pale tail and underwing pattern. 

birdie
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Looks like a whistling Kite to me..... not like any swampy I have ever seen

Sunshine Coast Queensland

kevinj
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Thanks,I`m still pretty much a novice when it comes to I.D`s.

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saturnv78
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Hi mate, this is a Whistling kite. The best way to tell that this is a Kite and not a Harrier is the number of primary feather "fingers", Kites have six and Harriers have five. Harriers also have a facial disc. The overall scruffy dirty brown appearance and the white panels on the underside of the wings near the base of the primary feathers mark this out as a Whistling kite. Hope this helps : )

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saturnv78 wrote:

Hi mate, this is a Whistling kite. The best way to tell that this is a Kite and not a Harrier is the number of primary feather "fingers", Kites have six and Harriers have five. Harriers also have a facial disc. The overall scruffy dirty brown appearance and the white panels on the underside of the wings near the base of the primary feathers mark this out as a Whistling kite. Hope this helps : )

 Good piece of information worth remembering. I've just counted the fingers in the first photograph.

Samford Valley Qld.

kevinj
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saturnv78 wrote:

Hi mate, this is a Whistling kite. The best way to tell that this is a Kite and not a Harrier is the number of primary feather "fingers", Kites have six and Harriers have five. Harriers also have a facial disc. The overall scruffy dirty brown appearance and the white panels on the underside of the wings near the base of the primary feathers mark this out as a Whistling kite. Hope this helps : )

Thankyou for this very useful information,will help me in the future to make more informed identification.

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Canonguy
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Don't always trust all birdwatchers, they don't all know the difference between a sparrow and a pigeon. LMAO

The single most distinct way to ID a Swamp Harrier is the white or buff (immature) rump, which is present in all birds.The underwing patterns of the kite and the swampie are also very different.

In time, you will easily tell them apart.

I've had photos forwarded to me a couple of years ago of a bird, that was clearly a female Swamp Harrier and about 20 birdwatchers claimed it as a Red Goshawk. My first question was where?

They said Kangaroo Valley. The location is also crucial at times when ID-ing birds, as some have quite restricted ranges.

kevinj
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Canonguy wrote:

Don't always trust all birdwatchers, they don't all know the difference between a sparrow and a pigeon. LMAO

The single most distinct way to ID a Swamp Harrier is the white or buff (immature) rump, which is present in all birds.The underwing patterns of the kite and the swampie are also very different.

In time, you will easily tell them apart.

I've had photos forwarded to me a couple of years ago of a bird, that was clearly a female Swamp Harrier and about 20 birdwatchers claimed it as a Red Goshawk. My first question was where?

They said Kangaroo Valley. The location is also crucial at times when ID-ing birds, as some have quite restricted ranges.

Thanks,more useful info to store for future reference,much appreciated.This was taken at Oxley Creek Common,Rocklea,Brisbane.

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