feeding wild birds

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george
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feeding wild birds

 to the neighbor up the road, have a look around ariels eaves  trees the sulphur crested  cockies are doing damage. apparentley has being spoken to but fell on deaf ears or don't give a s++t.

to what is going on. they are beautiful birds in their own area .

richman

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Araminta
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Sorry George, I don't get your point eithercrying I'd love to though. Can you please enlightened me??

M-L

george
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sorry i was trying to get across the Lady 3 doors up feeds wild birds what does one do  

    i beleive some nieghbors have said something to her,but it has not done anygood.

   three tv ariels, house eaves damaged. can thecouncil do something i have been told no ?.

  Sulphur crested- long and short billed Corellas- Galahs.

sorry to have given you a hard time.

richman

I think I can say with confidence that Birds in backyards is about studying birds and helping us understand them and the serious threats posed by man destroying their habitats. Most of us love birds and want to help them survive BUT I think I speak for most of us when I say feeding birds is by no means advocated or supported by the majority of members.

Cockatoos have to chew to wear down their beaks, it is a natural part of their day and if man has taken away their trees they choose to chew what is available whether they are being fed or not. These TV arials, awnings, eaves... whatever... are replaceable.  Stop whining and realise that we share this land with many creatures and all should have a right to a reasonably good lifestyle.

I personally (meaning I am not speaking for the group here) would much rather see a cockatoo in an undisturbed bush setting than a TV arial or your house or car or boat or even you. Get over yourself. It's not all about you.

Araminta
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You do have a problem at your hand there. I have seen both, the terrible damage “feeding Cockatoos” does to the  birds and to the houses up in the Dandenongs. I have written about it many times. There was a strong lobby group trying everything to stop this horrible place called “Grant’s Picnic Ground” , where masses of tourists arrive on busses to feed the unfortunate birds. There was an application made and a council voted, but unfortunately it was voted down by a very small margin.

I suspect it was rejected by fear of litigation against the council, because they gave the owners of the “Grant's feeding Circus” a long lease that only runs out 2019.  A few more years of suffering for the Cockatoos. I have seen many sick birds amongst them, suffering from “beak&feather disease”. As long as the “mighty tourist dollar” determines how we can protect our wildlife, there is no hope for Cockatoos in the Dandenongs. (or houses of the residents)

Up in the hills there is no shortage of natural food for Parrots, eating what nature intended them to eat, would keep them busy all day, and they would not attack people's houses.There are people in the Dandenongs that went away for 6 weeks, only to find the front veranda and almost all window frames destroyed beyong repair.

So, yes the Cockatoos up there are a huge problem, to no fault of the birds.

M-L

dwatsonbb
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Hi richman, I think George was expressing his frustrations about the neighbour feeding the birds, and therefore attracting them to his place and surrounds causing damage, and not griping about the birds themselves. I think (I might be wrong), but George is on the same page as most of us here with regard to feeding, and that the cockatoos may not be there but for artificial feeding.

Dale Huonville, Tasmania

darinnightowl
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that's  how I see  it to Dale 

See it!  Hear it!

Mid-North Coast NSW

george
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 spot on everyone i did not think of the birds side of things,they come and have a drink or swim in the bird baths outback.

 and now you mention it there is sickly looking ones coming around.

 Araminta is is a touchy subject.

Araminta
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I know George, I know. I'm used to sticking my neck outdevil, how else would anything ever change?crying

M-L

Woko
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When we radically alter the natural environment & tread heavily on Earth we can expect bad things to happen to us. A short term, partial solution to the sulphur crested cockatoo problem would be for the lady to cease her bird feeding. A longer term, more permanent solution would be for more of the sulphur crested cockatoo habitat to be restored. The sooner the longer term solution is acted on the sooner the problem is mitigated if not solved completely.

Araminta, apropos your neck sticking out, I'm reminded of this quote from George Bernard Shaw: "The reasonable [person] adapts [him/herself] to the world: the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to [her/himself]. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable [person]".

Araminta
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Woko wrote:

Araminta, apropos your neck sticking out, I'm reminded of this quote from George Bernard Shaw: "The reasonable [person] adapts [him/herself] to the world: the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to [her/himself]. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable [person]".

I have always lived by that motto. I shall write it down and hang it next to all the other quotes on my wall.

Thanks Wokoheart

M-L

Night Parrot
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2019 seems a long time to wait to have another go at the council Araminta. And after all,  isn't it the practice of the lessee in selling seed that is the issue rather than the lease itself? The state/federal environmental authorities should intervene, or even the RSPCA. There seems to be a general weakness in the system when the needs of wildlife do not prevail over uncontrolled tourism. But, as with the Currumbin bird-feeding "sanctuary" on the Gold Coast which is now a tourist institution, I can't see authorities closing off opportunities to grab the tourist dollar any time soon. Tourism can be such a spoiler; the irony being that discerning tourists will pay top dollar to experience "natural and unspoilt" rather than the artificial crap they are swindled into seeing. 

Woko
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In the long term, by spreading disease among birds through artificial feeding the tourism operators will be biting the hand that feeds them.

Raven
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When my youngest daughter was growing up she started feeding the birds and before we knew it there was a huge gathering in the backyard every afternoon.  Rainbow Lorikeets, Turtle Doves, Crested Pigeons, Feral Pigeons, Pied Currawongs, Australian Magpie family, Australian Ravens and a huge contingent of Noisy Mynahs...it just got too much.

It was so bad that the Feral Pigeons would hang around all day, crapping all over the roof, as soon as I walk out the back door they would all land hoping for a handout.

Problem was solved due to us going abroad for three months and when we returned the birds had gone!

Now and again I will throw steak and chicken bones out to the Australian Raven who pops in now and again, otherwise no feeding at all.

Every afternoon there is a huge bird gathering at the small park at Turramurra shops on the Pacific Highway, near the railway bridge, must have been 40 or 50 Sulphur Crested Cockatoo's there yesterday plus hordes of Feral Pigeons and half a dozen Ibis.  Think some old lady comes each day and feeds them.

greviousbh
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Raven wrote:

Problem was solved due to us going abroad for three months and when we returned the birds had gone!

Problem solved ?

Presumably the birds mostly died off from over breeding due to the trigger of so much additional food.  Either that or they moved to other areas, stressing or killing the birds in that area

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